In Re: [Fair Policy, Fair Discussion] Mitchell’s glitter wearing off? [Comment 17 (Howard)]

I respond to Howard’s comment  in Mitchell’s glitter wearing off? [Comment 17]:

Howard is black.

Joachim is red.

Lieberman: Lieberman is a minority coalition partner. His party has almost certainly passed its peak of popularity in Israel after showing itself to be both hypocritical and ineffective. They may retain support among Russian speakers, but their popularity among others has waned sharply and will likely continue to do so. As for Lieberman, the man has a big mouth and has repeatedly embarrassed himself. He is one of the less effective foreign ministers in Israel’s history. On critical foreign policy matters, Netanyahu is running foreign policy himself rather than trusting Lieberman’s assessments or Lieberman’s mouth. Egypt won’t talk to Lieberman because Lieberman insulted Mubarak. The Jordanians won’t talk to Lieberman either. The Palestinians won’t. There is little interest on the American side in dealing with him. And although Lieberman tried to promote the idea that Russia was a great friend and an alternative to the US, the Russians smiled and then set him aside. When it mattered, Netanyahu flew to Russia personally and in secret, without Lieberman. What, exactly, has Lieberman accomplished in his tenure as foreign minister and junior coalition partner?

Lieberman’s foolish rants mean nothing; as foreign minister he has no authority over the military whatsoever, and Netanyahu is plainly sidelining him. Thank God. The man is a bigot and a screw-up.

I worked on and off in Israel and the Occupied Territories from 1990-2002. Lieberman and his ideas are simply more mainstream in Israeli Zionist politics that you claim, and when I listen to Israeli radio on the Internet, the vicious racism is even worse than I remember. Yet as an American I am even far more distressed that Lieberman’s thinking has been absorbed by media Jews and is now being disseminated to the American public: Makdisi Overlooks US Journalistic Nazification.

As for your subsequent rant – wow. Just wow.

Joachim, the term “anti-goyism” is not Yiddish, and I’m fairly certain that you know that. The term is a very recent invention of neo-Nazi fringe groups.

Howard can’t BS me as he might other Jews or non-Jews.

I have been in Jewish studies for 40 years.

I have come across term antigoyizm in Yiddish texts from the 1880s-1930s. I assume it was a neologism created in response to the German word Antisemitismus. The beloved Yiddish author Sholem Aleichem several times (including in at least one essay in Af vos badarfn yidn a  land) described antigoyizm as a behavioral pattern that made it difficult for Jews to get along with non-Jews.

Your rant about “Jewish hatred for non-Jews” being “long-standing” is an example of serious, full-on anti-Semitic bigotry. I honestly thought you were smarter than to buy into that kind of garbage. If you were to say “Christian hatred for non-Christians is long-standing” or “Muslim hatred for non-Muslims is long-standing,” etc. then you would rightly be condemned as a Christophobe or an Islamophobe. If you said it about Blacks you would be rightly condemned as a racist. Such blanket statements about “the Evil Jews” are anti-Semitic drivel. Ad hominem attacks on me and all, I still thought you were better than THIS.

As a specialist in modern Eastern European and Jewish political economics, I have no doubt that Eastern European Yiddish Jews were one of the most racist populations in E. Europe despite common American misconceptions.

Eastern European Jewish resentment toward non-Jews are fairly easy to understand. Ethnic Ashkenazim were a major component of the commercial elite in historical Poland but became effectively disenfranchised with the collapse of Commonwealth Poland into the first modern failed state.

Yiddish Jews became extremely frustrated and angry especially as their erstwhile collaborators in the Polish gentry began to find more common interests with the Polish peasantry that Jews and gentry previously had so effectively exploited.

Jewish antigoyizm is without doubt a growing phenomenon during the 19th century in the territories of historic Poland.

As for studying Jewish antigoyizm or German anti-Semitism, there certainly are legitimate ways to characterize groups via measurable indicators, and there are quite reasonable studies of German or Christian anti-Semitism.

It is an illegitimate and disingenuous technique of Zionist hasbarah to claim that it is anti-Semitic to apply the same analytic techniques to Jews as one might use in describing non-Jews.

Zionism is one of several racist murderous genocidal ideologies that arise in Central and Eastern Europe during the late 19th century:  Zionism, Fascism, Nazism for Dummies, Why is this Nationalism Different ….

It is another technique of Zionist hasbarah to draw attention from the vile nature of Zionism by making unsubstantiatable accusations against the leadership of the native population of Palestine.

You position Hamas as a peace-loving group and say that if the Jews would simply disappear, then Hamas would have no hatred of them and all would be well; sorry, that’s too bad. Israel exists and Jews are there, including millions ethnically cleansed from the Arab world.

Hamas leaders are adults. Stop patronizing them. Like every other adult in a position of responsibility over millions of people, they must govern their rages and their thirst for vengeance and deal with the modern world, in the name of their people’s welfare. The welfare of Gazans demands that Hamas put aside its genocidal delusions and make peace. Gaza’s border with Israel is, in fact, the border that the Arab Peace Plan proposes for Gaza. Hamas could declare victory any day, in the name of the Arab world, fix that border and seal a permanent peace on that border. But Hamas refuses to declare the war over on that border, and this is because Hamas does not care about building a Palestinian state; Hamas cares about violently destroying the Jews. It’s all about revenge on anyone who Hamas perceives to have “humiliated” Arabs in the past, regardless of the truth of that perception.

Hamas is not a peace-loving group. If Israel did not exist, it would still be the same violent group that it is, but it would be fighting other Arabs. Its leaders do not govern their rages except when they fear for their own lives and power. Its violent rampages against its former coalition partners, its shooting up of mosques, its bloody-handed repression of political dissent in Gaza and manner in which its military forces are controlled by unelected terrorists living in totalitarian Syria demonstrate exactly what kind of organization Hamas is. It is just another group of would-be genocidal control freaks whose mission in life is not so much to build its own state as it is to destroy Fatah, destroy Israel and then overthrow the governments of Egypt and Jordan on the way to creating a regional Islamist dictatorship. Such a NICE bunch, Hamas.

Hamas is not the people of Gaza. The people of Gaza deserve BETTER than that.

I am not claiming that Hamas is a peace-loving group. By definition no resistance organization is.

We Americans have

  • to start acknowledging the unequivocal legitimacy of Hamas,
  • to stop pandering the Jewish Zionist racists among us and
  • to make it clear to Jews that they simply do not have the right to plunder and to kill non-Jews with impunity.

Because Jewish Zionist Neocons spent the last 8 years in manipulating the US government into incinerating one Arab or Muslim country after another and in making millions of refugees and because the State of Israel is the linchpin of Zionist mobilization and subversion in America (Importance of Nuremberg Tribunal Law), removing Zionists from stolen and occupied Palestine in order to return the country to the rightful owners is definitely an option that merits public discussion in the USA: Why Not Remove Zionist Interlopers?, Saving America in One Hundred Words.

Russia/etc.: You’re also repeating Nazi-era propaganda again. Yawn.

Now that scholars have more access to Soviet archives, there has been growing awareness that pre-WW2 European conservatives were more right than wrong about the Jewish-Bolshevik Peril and that there really was a great deal of Jewish Communist subversion during the 20s, 30s, and 40s.

In addition, scholars have learned that Soviet Ashkenazim were often the planners and perpetrators of Soviet mass murder, ethnic cleansing, and genocide.

Churchill discussed early 20th century Jewish murderousness in the following passage: Jewish Peril, 1939 versus 2009:


Zionism versus Bolshevism.

A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People

By the Rt. Hon. Winston S. Churchill.

In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.

Terrorist Jews

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd) or of Krassin or Radek all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.

Churchill believed that Zionism would provide an antidote to Bolshevik Jewish murderousness because he was a racist and had no problem with redirecting Jewish violence toward Arabs. For the record Zionist Ashkenazim have been at least as genocidal as Soviet Ashkenazim: The Pattern of Ethnic Ashkenazi Genocidalism: The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine.

And you’re down to the brass tacks on Israel & Gaza too: it’s “Jewish violence”, is it? Sir, you’re assigning traits to a whole religion again. If someone was talking about “Muslim violence”, you would blow a fuse, wouldn’t you?

Because I am a Jewish studies specialist, misrepresentations, prevarications, and lies like the following don’t phase me:

And you’re down to the brass tacks on Israel & Gaza too: it’s “Jewish violence”, is it? Sir, you’re assigning traits to a whole religion again. If someone was talking about “Muslim violence”, you would blow a fuse, wouldn’t you?

At least 80% of modern Jews belong to the Eastern European Ashkenazi ethnic group. Treating Jew interchangeably as a religious or ethnic term is even more legitimate for Jews than for Armenians.

Political economists discuss the political and economic factors for the rise of German militarism sinc 1870s.

I have used the same approach to discussing the rise of Jewish imperialism and genocidalism since the 1850s: Introduction: Jewish Historical Political Economics.

Now I am applying my skill set to analyzing the threat that Zionism represents to the USA: Scaremongering Muslim Interns, Undermining Democracy.

Hamas’ tadiyah was a fraud. Hamas operatives continued to launch rockets; they simply claimed responsibility under a different name: the People’s Resistance Committees. Many western media outlets simply don’t bother to probe the details, such as who are the members of which armed Gazan groups. Israel allowed the Hamas fraud to continue because the number of attacks did, in fact, drop and because Israel had other issues to deal with at the time. Finally, each Hamas truce occurred shortly after Israel started assassinating Hamas leaders and shortly after Israel struck Hamas hard militarily. Such a public-spirited gang, Hamas.

Here is a discussion of the six-month lull (tahdiyah) from the Israel: The Six Months of the Lull Arrangement.

This Israeli document makes quite clear that despite Howard’s racist Jewish Zionist lies Hamas worked hard to observe the tahdiyah from June 19th through November 4th when Israel broke the lull by carrying out an operation within Gaza with an excuse that is at the very least highly improbable. (See Escalation in the Gaza Strip.) If Hamas really were creating a tunnel to abduct Israeli soldiers, there are so many better military and PR ways to deal with it that the explanation for the IDF operation in Gaza appears to have been cooked up to cover a desire on the part of the Israeli government simply to break the lull as was by Nov. 4 the expressed desire of many senior people in the Israeli military and political establishment as well as among Neocon subversives in the USA.

I have worked in Gaza. Hamas is an admirably public-spirited group. Hamas activities should be contrasted with those of Jewish Zionist finance industry social networks that are responsible for the CDO meltdown: Blaming Jews for Financial Meltdown.

The military atrocities the IDF commits on Palestinians have an exact analogy in the economic atrocities that Jewish networks of trust throughout business and the government commit on all Americans.

We Americans have to start talking honestly about Jewish Zionist criminality and fraud here and abroad.

  1. Homeless in Gaza
  2. Importance of Nuremberg Tribunal Law
  3. Whither After Goldstone?
  4. Zionism in Goldstone Report
  5. Gaza, Goldstone, Jewish Ethical Cluelessness
  6. Collection: Chief Zionist Frauds
  7. Consuming Everything but Palestinian Tears
  8. Jewish Financial Aggression, World Economic Nakba
  9. Chop Shop Economics and Stealth Zionism.


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